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best B series for n/a?

Posted:
Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:28 am
by vtec veezy
hey guys, i made my decision and wanted to go all motor, but still haven't decided which b series engine to get. I wanna make decent numbers (in the 200's range) and even better when more money comes in, so which would you guys recommend? thanks in advance

Posted:
Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:18 pm
by Greasedmonkey
B18c5 OR The B18C R, almost there stock. 195hp at the flywheel stock.

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:58 am
by sdots
Greasedmonkey wrote:B18c5 OR The B18C R, almost there stock. 195hp at the flywheel stock.
Would say the same and also the B16B has similar numbers but harder to get your hands on

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:34 am
by Greasedmonkey
True indeed, 185hp stock is a good starting point. One of the best pistons honda has for the B series motors too. It is in essence only a tall deck B16a though. Pretty much a GSR/Type R with B16a crank and rods and some nasty domed pistons.

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:37 am
by vtec veezy
thanx for the info! didnt know they did that much stock! and also, sorry to change the subject...but what are your thoughts on itb's? are they bad for the engine or anything?

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:39 am
by Greasedmonkey
ITBs are great for all motor cars. Not easy to get running good but well worth it. If I didnt already have a skunk2 manifold, I would get some ITBs for mine.

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:04 am
by suspendedHatch
LS/VTEC done right. If you're doing a N/A build, you'll be installing high compression pistons anyway. 200hp you can get w/out even trying.
ITB's feel incredible but you sacrifice a lot of driveability. To do it right you really need to do some serious fabrication; not just the ITB's themselves, but also for vacuum control and a plenum. That's right, to do ITB's correctly on a street car you need to build a type of plenum.

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:12 pm
by sdots
ITB's are great, and the sound is amazing, but like suspendedhatch said, it's not as straight forward as you would assume it to be

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:57 pm
by asianrob
id only throw ITB's in if had some serious stuff on the car like some cams valve springs/retainers, atleast a mild port and polish job and some one that can actually Tune your motor with ITB's

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:21 pm
by vtec veezy
suspendedHatch wrote: That's right, to do ITB's correctly on a street car you need to build a type of plenum.
sorry, i'm as noob as they get, what do you mean by plenum??

Posted:
Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:37 pm
by Civic_HatchSI
One of the local guys, has a built n/a ls/vtec he hit low 13s on the 1/4 mile, and with nos he hit 12s.
quick little video i took.
http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/ ... otorEG.flv
203whp , and 138tq