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[ohDirka]

- Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:18 am #21152 my buddy has a b16a2 runnin stock internals t3 turbo, he keeps getting oil into the intercooler pipes. today we dove about 5 miles and ripped on it a lil. we get back to his house and it was driving like it was misfireing and it was blowing oil smoke out of the pipes. i checked the timing and it was right on, i even advanced it a little but it was still having the same issue. the air fuel ratio is at 14.9 which is where it was when it was running good. the turbine had just a frog hair of play so could that be the problem? i tried for like 2 hours to figure this out but had no ideas

Race cars are like boats I guess. Time to bust out another thousand.

[ChicagoMike]

- Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:38 pm #21167

air fuel ratio is at 14.9

Too lean. 13.7-14.0 at idle is okay. Under full boost.....I'd be shooting for 11.8-12.0

I'll also try to figure out the oil situation too.

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- Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:31 pm #21181

air fuel ratio is at 14.9

Too lean. 13.7-14.0 at idle is okay. Under full boost.....I'd be shooting for 11.8-12.0

I'll also try to figure out the oil situation too.

thats same as i was thinking, i was in the 11's under full boost.

Also it coudl be a seal in the turbo, or your rings are going, do a compression test!

Craig

*looks at hand* so what do you want to do baby

- Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:06 pm #21193 Oil -> to much pressure.

So could be something like a bad oil return, or other pressure pushing oil out...
What do you have for an oilcatchcan, and is the black box on the rear of the engine not clogged up?



You could also drain all of the oil, that'll get you rid of the problem

[ohDirka]

- Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:32 am #21221 i emptied the catch can and got the fuel ratio back in the ball park but was still having problems. i noticed a small tick coming from the valve cover so i told the kid that he might have a bent valve or smoked piston rings.

Race cars are like boats I guess. Time to bust out another thousand.

- Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:45 am #21223 something like this happend to my friends accord when he boosted it. it ended up being the oil seal in the turbo giving out along with some other little problems since it was an old turbo but the oil seal was the main cause. if its not that then its probly rings. like york said, run a compression check.

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- Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:46 pm #21256

something like this happend to my friends accord when he boosted it. it ended up being the oil seal in the turbo giving out along with some other little problems since it was an old turbo but the oil seal was the main cause. if its not that then its probly rings. like york said, run a compression check.

Thank you!

Also does he have an oil restrictor, if not then that coudl be your problem also!

Craig

*looks at hand* so what do you want to do baby

[teal_dx]

- Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:11 pm #21262 This is the same guy who would beat on his car and then shut it off right away, no? Sounds like it's time to re-build the turbo...

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[ohDirka]

- Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:43 pm #21264

This is the same guy who would beat on his car and then shut it off right away, no? Sounds like it's time to re-build the turbo...

lol yea the same guy...i asked him if he let the car idle after beating on it to let the turbo cool down and the kid said yes. so i went for a ride with him and the kid definitely didn't let it sit at idle after ripping on it

Race cars are like boats I guess. Time to bust out another thousand.

- Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:18 pm #21277 it is NOT valves or your rings. That makes no sense, even if you have a bent valve why would there be oil in the ic pipes? it is and I guarantee a turbo seal or your oil return line to the pan is to small. But if you had this set up for a while and It was not doing this before then It is just a turbo seal. Time to go to a bb turbo gt35r hehehhe. Go luck.

[ohDirka]

- Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:57 pm #21279 its not my car but ill tell the kid that its probably his turbo seal. i did notice that the turbine had just a little play so possibly do a turbo rebuild? anyone in ohio know where to have it done?

Race cars are like boats I guess. Time to bust out another thousand.

[ohDirka]

- Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:03 am #21307 the kid had to have it towed home today from work...said it was straight blowing oil smoke out of the back and running real shitty....what do you guys suggest he does to get the car back on the road as soon as possible

Race cars are like boats I guess. Time to bust out another thousand.

- Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:22 pm #21360 Do an upgrade to the turbo by buying a new CHRA, can be bought at ATPturbo.com

Btw, a chra is the piece between the turbine and compressorhousings, stands for center housing rotating assembly.

Quote from the site (I picked the T04E 57 trim chra, others available)

Garrett ball bearing CHRA, T04E 57 trim compressor wheel, stage III turbine wheel. Fully assembled and balanced backplate. Just swap end housings and go. Uses ATP-OIL-021 oil inlet fitting. T3/4 drain flange. Coolant in/out required (14mm threads - same as GT series ball bearing). Nice "drop-in" replacement for an exisiting T series turbo using this same wheel combination.

Costs are pretty high though, 935 dollars...

[ohDirka]

- Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:20 pm #21372 yea this is the kids daily driver so he just needs to get it running asap

Race cars are like boats I guess. Time to bust out another thousand.

- Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:45 pm #21383 Well, take out the CHRA and get a rebuild one, get it in and you're ready to boost again.

I can tell you one thing; the way he handles his turbo, it wont hold out long, so that's something he should look into as well.