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high comp.turbo
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Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:46 amby F20bhatch
Just thinking out loud. Want to do a high compression Turbo build. Check this, 11.1 comp. I beam rods. Forged pistons.hondata s300.f22 transmission. Sounds like a beast huh? Any comments welcome?
Re: high comp.turbo
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Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:30 amby kingjmack
F20bhatch wrote:Just thinking out loud. Want to do a high compression Turbo build. Check this, 11.1 comp. I beam rods. Forged pistons.hondata s300.f22 transmission. Sounds like a beast huh? Any comments welcome?
That's a higher than normal comp number, but with the proper tuning, you should have NO problem with it. good luck!
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Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:41 amby RWMIII
sooo...whats the block and head again? i saw the tranny...
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Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:48 pmby F20bhatch
Yeah I know everrybody lower the compression. And run like 15-20 psi.but.y not up the compression and run less boost. So u can run a small Turbo.and it will spool quicker. And make good number with less boost
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Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:04 pmby forcefedEG
10:1 with full sleeves is a sweet spot
Your on the right track imo. That's kinda what I'm looking to do down the road
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Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:51 pmby EJ1_MK
Most major drag racers run high compression high boost you should be fine as long as you have all the supporting mods, fuel, tuning, etc.
Local shop in KC here runs close to 265 psi per cylinder under a compression test plus a high amount of boost which makes the B series right around 900 + wheel horsepower and running 9s at the track.
Fact stock Type R compression test should read 215-225 psi per cylinder Which is an 11:1 compression engine.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:17 amby F20bhatch
I just think it'll be better on the Turbo and other parts to running 5 psi. Compared to running 30 psi if I can make the same power.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:41 amby EJ1_MK
If you build it and its flows good then you can run 5 and make the same amount as the guy that is built with a lower compression running higher boost and then if you feel the need to turn the boost up you can and make a lot more power. but yes you are correct the better the engine flows the easier it will be to make power on less boost.
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:50 pmby forcefedEG
Cfm> Psi
Cfm makes power
Psi breaks stuff
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:02 pmby F20bhatch
So a bigger Turbo running small boost is better than a small Turbo running a lot of boost.?
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Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:20 pmby poorman type-r
Well it would be pointless to run a high comp w/ a small turbo. It would be a sick build, yes. As for power i don't think you will see the results you want. Might as well supercharge it.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:57 pmby forcefedEG
The more cfm.(cubic feet per min) you can flow and less psi (pounds per square inch) you need to run to flow that cfm the better off you are
Example. 3500cfm at 10psi. Or. 2500 cfm at 10psi.
You will get more power from the first one and be less stress on components
because your flowing more volume on less pressure
But you really want higher compression with a good flowing turbo but still sized right to your application
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:52 pmby F20bhatch
So Wat would be a nice size for a stock f20b at 11.1 compression. I want around 300whp reliable. And ill be happy for now