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b16 question

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:56 am
by Ajax1989
hey all
im pricing things that i want to do to my car
and i decieded on what motor i want and im choosing a USDM B16 2nd gen. cause cali's laws wont let you have "JDM" motors due to smog.

but
im a deer in head lights when it comes to the B serise
and im gonna ask some noob questions, so bare wit me 8)

so i would like some help choosing the rite one and the rite internals
i will be turboin this motor too
i would like 300-350ish hp if possable
its goin into a eg8 (lx)

i would like someone that knows B engines and trannies
to point me in the rite way..

thanks

oh btw im set on gettin a b16, not a b18 not a b20, nor the "ls/vtec"

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:10 pm
by Greasedmonkey
Finally, someone wants to use the B16a. Everyone seems to really hate these motors.


You say you want to turbo it and make 300-350 HP. How much do you want to spend on the motor. You can always overbuild the motor and just not boost as high and have it more reliable.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:13 pm
by Ajax1989
ya all i see is b18 and the b20's i dont see the b16 often

well price isnt gonna be an issue, and i would love for it to boosted and reliable :thumb:

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:36 pm
by Greasedmonkey
Okay then. Are you ready.

Block mods:

Sleeving 81mm or more depending on your tastes
Forged Pistons - Arias, JE, SRP, Weisco, Endyne*my choice* with static CR of 9:1
Forged rods - Eagle, Crower, Pauter, and so on.
ARP main studs
ARP rod bolts if not included with rods
Oil Pan - modded stock, Moroso
Crank - Stock, Crower, Eagle - stroke up to you.


Head Mods:

Port and polish!!!
Bigger valves +.5 or +1mm for intake and exhaust
Valve job
Bronze Valve guides
New valve seals
Valve springs and retainers - Skunk2, Buddy Club, Toda, and so on



That will just about cover the more important things. Im sure I forgot some things, but those are the big parts.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:49 pm
by Ajax1989
ok cool,

so what do you mean by sleeving ??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:53 pm
by egsedanguy
thats what your pistons go in. its called a sleev because you can remove it. then install better ones with a bigger bore..

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:54 pm
by Greasedmonkey
not always a bigger bore. you can still stay 81mm. it just makes the motor a closed deck and not an open on. makes the wall stronger and less prone to move and flex.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:56 pm
by egsedanguy
Greasedmonkey wrote:not always a bigger bore. you can still stay 81mm. it just makes the motor a closed deck and not an open on. makes the wall stronger and less prone to move and flex.


your like a walking , talking honda tech book. look up honda guru in the dictionary and your pic is there.lol

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:59 pm
by Greasedmonkey
I dont know about that...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:04 am
by egsedanguy
well compaird to my knowlage. you higher on the food chain for tech info. i know enough to get me by, im learning more and more off this site. i cant get enough. i have been on here almost every day mon-fri while at work. im addicted to the info....... :thumb:

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:10 am
by Ajax1989
im look at some motors online and some say long block and short block

whats the diff??

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:58 am
by LPUK
Short block and long block basically refer to when the engine is being sold. It all depends on the parts coming with it.

Short block normally regards to whether the head is being sold with it or not.

If the head is being sold with the engine it is referred to as long block.

Hope this helps.

Also, I'm planning on putting a UKDM B16a2 engine in my car :)

Luke.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:56 pm
by Greasedmonkey
LPUK wrote:Short block and long block basically refer to when the engine is being sold. It all depends on the parts coming with it.

Short block normally regards to whether the head is being sold with it or not.

If the head is being sold with the engine it is referred to as long block.

Hope this helps.

Also, I'm planning on putting a UKDM B16a2 engine in my car :)

Luke.



Yep. Long block is pretty much the whole motor minus accesories, and sometimes manifolds and such.

Short block is just the block, pistons, rods, crank, and oil pan. everything with out the head attached.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:58 pm
by Ajax1989
ok i got another question

is the b16 from the delsol obd1
and if so would be better to use that motor from the sol
or get the b16 from the 99-00 si obd2??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:30 pm
by Greasedmonkey
The del sol got both versions. Depends on the year as to which one it is.