Very Confused

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Very Confused

By fresh eh2*
- Thu May 03, 2007 3:44 pm #7227 i dont know what to do, i originaly wanted to do a b16 swap to my EK hatch, but i read a few forums and alot of ppl say b16s feel like D's untill u get to 5k rpms, and that they are a waste of money, ppl say ur better off with a ls with a b16 or gsr tranny. do any of you guys have any type of expierence with b16s?. i was thinking of going lsvtec. b18b1 block with a b16 head. can some1 list of parts i will need to make this happen. some of the parts i know i need is

b18b block
vtec head
b16/gsr t-belt,water pump
golden eagle lsvtec kit

if there are some parts i am missing please let me know, also what ecu do i use? and i also herd that u have to tap the block and head for the oil line so enough oil can go up to the head is this true?
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By ChicagoMike
- Thu May 03, 2007 3:51 pm #7228 Looks like you've got it pretty much covered. B16's are torqueless wonders. Just save the money and go LS-V or GSR. The 1.8 owns the 1.6
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By ChicagoMike
- Thu May 03, 2007 4:07 pm #7230 Hmmmmm, I dont think so, but I'm not 100% sure. Just hold out for a GSR, its not that much more than a B16. Come to think of it, look at my for sale thread, there's a complete GSR in there. I can do just the long block for about $2300 shipped.

http://civic-eg.com/viewtopic.php?t=755
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By fresh eh2*
- Thu May 03, 2007 4:50 pm #7232 i would but i cant afford that, and i still would have to buy the rest of the swap lol my bad man. but i just found out if i was to do lsvtec i wouold also have to change the oil pump also i would have to get a itr/gsr oil pump, also i would have to change the rings and the rod bearings so the motor could be more reliable. so far the parts i gotta add on the

rings
rod bearings
itr/gsr oil pump
head studs
main studs
i think if u add this list and the one up there^^ thats about it? sum1 please correct me if im wrong
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By Greasedmonkey
- Thu May 03, 2007 6:20 pm #7244 For the LS/VTEC you would need

Pistons
shot peen the LS rods at a minimum.
New main and rod bearings
Rings
water pump\
Timing belt > From same motor B16a/B18c
Oil pump /
Intake manifold ITR or aftermarket.

there are other things you could get...

By spinksy
- Thu May 03, 2007 9:40 pm #7261 ive just changed my engine from a D16z to a B16a2 an theres no difference in torque (proven in the dyno graphs as i had my old engine dynoed an ive just had this one dynoed) im running better bhp now - got 173.6bhp which is good but they are quite torqueless.

this has been playin on my mind for the last few days cause although my cars quicker than before i ended up payin bit more than i expected for the conversion an am feelin alittle down about it :? :(

im going to do a 1/4 mile soon an am really hoping for a high 14 - if i can get that ill be happy 8)
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