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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Polyurethane Bushing Install Reply with quote





Suspension Bushings are probably one of the most difficult and time consuming mods I've done to the car. The OEM bushings are rubber and will rot over time, especially when driven in the salty winter. I had to replace 2 when I installed the suspension because there was practically nothing left of them. They were about $25 each from the dealer and had to be pressed in. As other bushings began to rot, I decided in the long run it would be better to pay $120 and purchase the Energy Suspension Master Kit. I also bought the Trailing Arm bushing kit for $18 more.
You may not want to do this mod to your daily driver, you will feel EVERY little bump in the road and the big ones will hurt a LOT more than when your car was just lowered before bushings.
Everyone says you must have a bushing press before installing these. Not true....
I did the whole kit in my garage, the back one weekend and the front the next.
All I needed was:
- Fire (a propane torch to burn out the old rubber bushings)
- Hack Saw to cut out the oem metal bushing casings
- bench vise
- freezer
- hammer & chisel or punch
After you make sure you have all the bushings and sleeves in your kit, put the bushings in the freezer and let them sit. They will ever so slightly shrink from the cold = easier to install for the tight fit.
Pick a bushing and start torching it with the propane torch. This makes a mess and lots of black smoke. A flat head screw driver is handy to poke and scrape out some of the burned rubber.



Also for a piece like the rear control arm, I just removed it and put each end in the charcoal grill on a pile of red hot coals. 10 mins later most of the bushing fell out on its own when I picked up the arm (with gloves!). I let it cool and got to hack sawing!





Depending on the bushing, there may be a metal sleeve around the outside of the rubber which was pressed in by the factory. Saw through it in a couple spots. Next hit the edge of the sleeve with the hammer & chisel and it should start sliding out. It is easiest if you put the whole piece or control arm you are working on in the vise. By the way, you have to install the blade on the hack saw after you slide the blade half way through the bushing. Then tighten it down, the blade will be trapped inside the bushing and you can cut away! After making a cut or two, start banging the sleeve out by hitting the edge with a hammer & chisel or punch.



This pic shows the thin metal outer sleeves left behind after burning out the oem bushings, these are what you must cut to remove.





This was the Rear Trailing Arm Bushing that was not included in the Master Kit. It was by far the most difficult to install because I did not use a vise. That would have meant removing the arm from the car and disconnecting the brake and parking brake.

When Installing the new bushings, remove them from the freezer and be sure you have the right one for the control arm you're working on. Align the control arm and bushing in the vise and start clamping down slowly. If the bushing starts going in a little crooked, poke in the side that is coming out with a flathead screwdriver. It doesn't always work on the first try, I even had a couple pop out and shoot over my shoulder across the garage. One even got me right in the forehead, so watch out!

The kit came with lots of grease, I didn't even need it all. Use it if it is there, I learned that you may get some squeaks down the road. Also the Red bushings are more prone to squeak than the Black ones. I read later on that the Black ones are impregnated with Graphite. So buy the Black kit if possible.





I finished the rear one weekend and drove it that week. What a huge difference, it is like the end of the car followed the front 100%. The next weekend i did the front and the whole car handled even better with far less under steer than before. Keep in mind it was already lowered before this, but the new difference was huge. The shocks were doing a lot more work now with the bushings so stiff, the ride seemed slightly more bouncy. I drove it for a week with steelies & cheap tires. You want to let the bushings settle in before going in for an alignment.

Also go back after a while and check your upper shock bushings under the hood and in the trunk/hatch. The bolts worked themselves loose over time.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good post

And those bolts for the lower control arm will break i have done these new bussings on a couple of cars now THEY WILL BREAK!!!! get two new bolts for each side and new bussings axpext for the bolst to break and have to replace the bushings as teal_dx puts it...even with pix...this is what will need to be done!!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah definitely, the rear lower control arm bolts that connect the shock to the arm are the ones that will break. Also seen the ones on the outer end of the arm break.

When you have a bolt that is stuck, I'll usually heat it up with the blow torch. the heat will expand the metal and then it will contract when it cools. The expanding & shrinking will help to break things loose. When the bolt is cool, spray it with some PB Blaster. This stuff works great! I usually hot it with some PB Blaster first, then if it is still stuck break out the fire.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pb is my friend
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the end link swap this morning. Pretty straight forward. Haven't raced the car yet, but it does seem to have firmed up the front end. We have an event Sunday and am eager to see how she feels. I took a few pics...may post em...

Also did the shift stabilizer swap a few weeks ago. Really helped firm up the feel.

Can't see the pictures in the original post... Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yo dude, nice right up. i'm just about to install the rear trailing arm bushing on my EK(got linked here from honda-tech) wondering how exactly you got the bushing out? propane torch? and did you need to remove the outer metal shell completely? also what did you do with the centre metal rod, with the 2 holes to attach the bushing to the chassis? do you just remove it from the old ones and stick it in? or does it need to be bonded or something special?

thanks for any feedback dude, and sorry to bring an EK here (honestly am, but can't find any other decent forum write ups)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey it's cool, we don't discriminate - as long as it's a Honda Smile

I removed the old bushing by burning it out. It is a long process, I used a propane torch. After burnung for a while, I would scrape out the burnt areas with a scraper, then repeat with the torch. I did all this with out completely removing the arm from the vehicle. The metal pin that goes through the OEM bushing will need to be re-used. You'll have to cleam the remains of the OEM rubber bushing off of the pin and grease it up and put it in the new bushing. These main trailing arm bushings were harder to install than any other bushing I did on the car.... Lots of swearing at them!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that big one near the front of the rear...
was that in the kt???
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, the rear trailing arm bushings were a separate set. they were about $20 for both and came in the little yellow box in the first pic. If I did it again, I probably wouldn't even buy those 2 bushings. they were such a PITA to install.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did u burn out every bushing? i pressed mine out at school and pressed in my prothane ones so much easier then burning Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I was in pyro mode but it even got old after a while. It makes a mess on your garage floor too. I needed to know a guy with a press Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea i did them at school we got everything u could ever need
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another write-up of the same topic by SuperStreet:

http://www.superstreetonline.com/howto/27098/
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to bring back the dead...lol But when it comes to poly bushings are different brands better than others? or does it not matter. I figured if I'm going to do it, I might as well do it the right way and with the best parts.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This post is very great, but why not just buy new LCA?? you can find a set for 100 $, name brand and everything lol



*edit* this is a question to you brian
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