energy suspension rear trailing arm bushing qusetion

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energy suspension rear trailing arm bushing qusetion

By Shinepdx
- Sat May 09, 2009 7:22 pm #115824 So I just picked up a complete rear disc brake swap off a GSR and was going to replace the bushing while I have it out. So while looking at new Energy Suspension bushing I see they have red and black ones, is one better then the other or is it just a color choice?
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By VegasCivic
- Sat May 09, 2009 9:01 pm #115835 Black is graphite impregnated. Supposed to be less noisy. I dont think the hardness is any different.
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By Mordiiax
- Sat May 09, 2009 9:31 pm #115840 ES trailingarm bushing is rubbish. Go with CR-V bushing instead (part #: 52385-SR3-003), it is stiffer then Civic oem. 1mm bigger but that is no big deal, just clean the area where it goes before you install it :) A lot cheaper then the Mugen dito...

By danomatic93
- Sat May 09, 2009 10:34 pm #115847 Even Energy Suspension says that the only difference between the red and black is that the red is red and the black is black! NO DIFFERENCE!

EDIT: "Both are our Energy's HYPER-FLEX™ performance polyurethane formulations. Energy has impregnated selected black polyurethane components with graphite–to add a lubrication property. Additionally, both Energy Suspension ® red and black polyurethane components are engineered differently than OEM rubber components–to be free a floating and non-binding design."

-So, unless it says that they are graphite impregnated, they aren't. Only selected bushings are.

Anyways, the TA bushings are the only bushing that you don't want to be the ES ones. The Civic's TA bushings are designed for flex when you corner. If you installed the solid ES bushings, you would no longer get that flex in there. That is only desired if you were driving a drag strip car.

Megan Racing makes some nice aftermarket stock styled TA bushings. Otherwise stock will do just fine.
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By VegasCivic
- Sun May 10, 2009 12:30 am #115860 They aren't as "solid" as you would think after you put weight on it, and use them for a while.

Perhaps is may be "best" to use a non-solid design, but either way you wont regret replacing the old one, and the rest of the ES bushing system rocks.

:thumb:

By danomatic93
- Sun May 10, 2009 7:16 am #115897
VegasCivic wrote: and the rest of the ES bushing system rocks.

:thumb:


^ditto, the rest of the ES bushings rock! I wish they make a stock style TA bushing and I don't understand why they don't. oh well.
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By 95CivEg
- Mon May 11, 2009 5:59 am #116012 hey does anyone have the xtractor tool to remove/install the rta's???

By danomatic93
- Mon May 11, 2009 6:09 am #116015
95CivEg wrote:hey does anyone have the xtractor tool to remove/install the rta's???


I suggest that you buy one and rent it out.
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By VegasCivic
- Mon May 11, 2009 1:05 pm #116032 I used a torch, and a old BBQ grill. just threw in on and let it burn. Then knocked it right out. :thumb:

Although the amount of black stuff it throws into the air im sure its somewhow illegal in at least 30 states :lol: :thumb: 8)
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By BLaCkSiLo
- Wed May 13, 2009 2:38 pm #116594
VegasCivic wrote:I used a torch, and a old BBQ grill. just threw in on and let it burn. Then knocked it right out. :thumb:

Although the amount of black stuff it throws into the air im sure its somewhow illegal in at least 30 states :lol: :thumb: 8)


haha, i used a butane torch, oxy-ace torch, a carbide bit, an air grinder, a wire wheel and shit load of time...also a face shield lol :thumb:

By the ghoul
- Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:36 am #120115 I took a big drill, and gnawed away all the rubber i could, then heated the rest with a propane torch and cut it away with a utility knife.
I then used a wire wheel and a drill to get it nice and pretty clean.
bolt and oversized washer trick they show you in the instructions works wonders.
:thumb:
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By xswingkidx
- Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:27 am #122177 I personally don't use anything but urethane (energy suspension) when I'm replacing bushings. I live in the desert and the sun/heat destroys rubber bushings so it is beneficial for me in the sense that I don't have to worry about them rotting out after they have been replaced. I also prefer to have the "stiff" ride of solid bushings but that is just personal preference.
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By BLaCkSiLo
- Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:11 pm #123067
Mordiiax wrote:Went against myself and bought these today:
http://passwordjdm.com/PasswordJDM-Rear ... 4C139.aspx

:woot:

And this is how you change it ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPTDzrxqoOo



wow :shock:

those are some intense ass rear TAB's.... what's the benefit of a spherical bearing vs. a bushing? i mean i understand that bearings are much better than bushings but...?
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By Mordiiax
- Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:20 pm #123068 Rubber will always flex in every direction and that is not good for fast laptimes. I´m sure new OEM bushings are really good also, but i´m looking for the extra edge :)
For the geeky stuff, just check the pwd:jdm link and read the stuff there :)

My friend just bought an M3 E36 and is 2 sec faster per lap then me. Something needs to be done :D
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