B16, B18, B20
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By bren94cx
#80998 im trying to decide on what i want to swap into my cx... the d15s gotta go

im considering a b18b but im a little confused

im a mechanic so i kno how to do the work but idk the honda's lol
im reading about b18b's and ppl are talking about wiring ecus for vtec? i thought the b18b was none-vtec???
sooo i need help... straighten me out im to much of a honda-newbie
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By ej2rey
#81000
bren94cx wrote:im trying to decide on what i want to swap into my cx... the d15s gotta go

im considering a b18b but im a little confused

im a mechanic so i kno how to do the work but idk the honda's lol
im reading about b18b's and ppl are talking about wiring ecus for vtec? i thought the b18b was none-vtec???
sooo i need help... straighten me out im to much of a honda-newbie


You are right. B18b is integra ls motor. So no vtec. You don't need to do any wiring.

Later on if you do decide on going vtec, wether going b16, gsr or ls/v(which is installing vtec head eaither gsr or b16 on the ls block) then you would have to wire up the vetc and get yourself a vtec ecu. But best thing to do would be getting a vtec harness either from a93-95 ex.
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By bren94cx
#81003 i dont think i want to go vtec... like i hear and read that b18b's are legit motors to turbo? true false?

i hear that they are torque-ier then most b16s etc..
i like that i want the torque
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By Faded_Milano
#81004 torque ftw! I have a 7.3 diesel truck. talk about torque :o
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By bren94cx
#81005
Faded_Milano wrote:torque ftw! I have a 7.3 diesel truck. talk about torque :o



hahaha nice
im a diesel mechanic
certified and all lol
from my tech highschool that is lol
i work at a garbage company,,, i maintain a fleet of approx 150 garbage trucks with a shop of 10 guys lol its fun and dirty. and all my money is going towards car payments, parts etc.
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By ej2rey
#81092
bren94cx wrote:i dont think i want to go vtec... like i hear and read that b18b's are legit motors to turbo? true false?

i hear that they are torque-ier then most b16s etc..
i like that i want the torque

Oohhh yes you wanna go vtec. And if you want the torque aswell then build an ls/vtec. It has the potential of a vtec motor does with the extra torque from the ls block.
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By bren94cx
#81161 why not just ls non vtec turboed lol
i also thought that ls/vtec plus boost was badddd
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By Greasedmonkey
#81182 LS/VTEC built by someone that doesnt know what they are doing is bad. You can build anymore for anything. There are plenty of LS/V that have boost on them. Its just that the LS/VTEC motor isnt something people should just through out there for anyone. To get it to be reliable, and make the numbers everyone wants it takes knowledge and know how. The motor isnt for everyone.

If you want torque, i hate to say it, but get a v8. Hondas arent known for it.

The B18c would most likely be your best bet in the end. Its a great starter motor, make good power and decent torque for a 1.8. Not as much as the LS, but the B18c1 has vtec.

You will not need to do any extra wiring if you swap in a B18b though, its just a plug and play motor swap.
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By bren94cx
#81191
Greasedmonkey wrote:LS/VTEC built by someone that doesnt know what they are doing is bad. You can build anymore for anything. There are plenty of LS/V that have boost on them. Its just that the LS/VTEC motor isnt something people should just through out there for anyone. To get it to be reliable, and make the numbers everyone wants it takes knowledge and know how. The motor isnt for everyone.

If you want torque, i hate to say it, but get a v8. Hondas arent known for it.

The B18c would most likely be your best bet in the end. Its a great starter motor, make good power and decent torque for a 1.8. Not as much as the LS, but the B18c1 has vtec.

You will not need to do any extra wiring if you swap in a B18b though, its just a plug and play motor swap.



thanks guys for all the infomation
im really not sure what i want i guess haha

i got one final question
b18b1
vs. b18a1

whats the difference
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By Classiccarsrule85
#81195 B18a1 -2nd gen integra small throttle body lots o vaccum hoses and its obd0

B18b1 94+ integra/3rd gen larger throttle body than a1, also has a bigger throttle body than d series cars.....and yea its obd1

im sure there are of coarse power differences but if I was you it would be a heck of alot easier swapping the B1 into your car than the A1
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By bren94cx
#81205
Classiccarsrule85 wrote:B18a1 -2nd gen integra small throttle body lots o vaccum hoses and its obd0

B18b1 94+ integra/3rd gen larger throttle body than a1, also has a bigger throttle body than d series cars.....and yea its obd1

im sure there are of coarse power differences but if I was you it would be a heck of alot easier swapping the B1 into your car than the A1



sweet thank you thank you thank you

i was looking online at some local auto trader place and they have a b18b1 for $$$500
reasonable?

whats the prices usually go for?
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By Faded_Milano
#81206 My dad is an ASE certified master mechanic for diesels, A/C, and he's working on his hydraulics certification now. He's been doing it for 25 years and has worked for 2 International Truck dealerships, had his own mobile diesel diagnosis and repair business and currently services Florida power and light's fleet. :thumb: diesel power
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By bren94cx
#81208
Faded_Milano wrote:My dad is an ASE certified master mechanic for diesels, A/C, and he's working on his hydraulics certification now. He's been doing it for 25 years and has worked for 2 International Truck dealerships, had his own mobile diesel diagnosis and repair business and currently services Florida power and light's fleet. :thumb: diesel power


thats awesome
im always working with hydralics and diagnosis on the trucks
its a must at my company
someday ill get to a master mechanic
ive worked with the national guard through school and ryder

thats awesome though. and DIESELS WILL BE AROUND FOREVER
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By Greasedmonkey
#81209 That $500 is most likely for just the longblock. You might still need to get the wiring, axles, ecu and tranny from somewhere else.

I would also suggest to get the GSR tranny to go along with that LS motor.
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By Faded_Milano
#81212 I hope it catches on in the US after the new TDI is (hopefully) a hit