Civic-EG.com Forum 3.3.1

- Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:33 am #95645 Looking for another DD. Trying to find a 92-95 CHAMPION WHITE or the Silver/Grey one.

What are the pro's and con's to the EG? Best year? Worst year? What to look out for? And what model to get? CX, DX,VX? ETC?

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As for performance... Definatly going to try and get one with the STOCK engine or close to that. Remember, this is going to be a DD/Beater. Stock exhaust. etc. Only performance I am thinking about doing is the CAI.

What is one of the best CAI to buy for the hatch?

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As for the looks... Idk, Coilovers, lip kit, carbon fiber wing, rims, red/white tail lights, etc

Where do you guys recommend buying the parts? Whats the best coilover setup?

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Thanks for the help guys. Sorry for coming in with all these questions. This will be my daily driver/beater since I have already put almost 20k on my other car in less then 1 1/2 years.

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- Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:37 am #95657 Pros:
> Light weight
> Easy to swap engines
> HUGE aftermarket support, Partly linked to above.
> Good fuel econemy.(my D15b7 5spd Sedan gets 37mpg IN TOWN)
> Easy to make even the stock stuff fast.
> You get OBD1, Not the unreliable OBD0, nor the harder to tune OBD2.

Cons:
> Theft is a concern of all Honda owners, Nice EGs are stolen often. Lets just say there is a Good Reason we have so many pages in the "Stolen EG" Thread.
> Age, Lets face it, these cars are atleast 14-15 Years old. Therefore most stock parts will have quite a bit of miles on them. Its Hard to find a Clean eg, Expessially in a hatch that is in good shape, with low miles.


Best Year? Best Model? Depends on what you want.

The 92 CX will be the lightest, perfect for a swap. The Si come with the D16z6, Which is the best US D16. Doesn't have the mysterous oil issues that the D16y8 of the EK(96-00) Does. Also comes loaded with Sunroof, and other goodies such as Rear Disks.

The 94-95 have Dual Airbags, and have optional ABS, Which is much more common in these years.
the 92-93 have 1 airbag(driver) and some have ABS, However it is much much rarer.

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- Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:04 pm #95672

Cons:
> Theft is a concern of all Honda owners, Nice EGs are stolen often. Lets just say there is a Good Reason we have so many pages in the "Stolen EG" Thread.
> Age, Lets face it, these cars are atleast 14-15 Years old. Therefore most stock parts will have quite a bit of miles on them. Its Hard to find a Clean eg, Expessially in a hatch that is in good shape, with low miles.
> Body rust, look out for it around the wheel arch areas.

- Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:17 pm #95675 Just an FYI the only Champ White, or Silver EG's you'll find wil have to have been painted, they didn't come factory in these colors

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- Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:58 pm #95721 what i want out of a car? I want it to be reliable, great on mpg, looks good. Not really looking for power as of right now. But what is the best one to get if some day it will be a project car? Right now if i get one it will be to get me from point a to point b. Any body difference between the different models? Or is it just the difference in engines.

And how much do you think all of this will cost if lets say i get middle to high quality parts. Some used and some new. And lets say the hatch will be 4k. 1 to 2k in parts and labor? Or more

- Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:03 pm #95725 what i want out of a car? I want it to be reliable, great on mpg, looks good. Not really looking for power as of right now. But what is the best one to get if some day it will be a project car? Right now if i get one it will be to get me from point a to point b. Any body difference between the different models? Or is it just the difference in engines.

And how much do you think all of this will cost if lets say i get middle to high quality parts. Some used and some new. And lets say the hatch will be 4k. 1 to 2k in parts and labor? Or more

- Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:29 pm #95739

Just an FYI the only Champ White, or Silver EG's you'll find wil have to have been painted, they didn't come factory in these colors

Championship white is for Type R's and never came on the EG, as for Silver, you can get them stock Silver over here.

- Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:32 pm #95741

Just an FYI the only Champ White, or Silver EG's you'll find wil have to have been painted, they didn't come factory in these colors

Championship white is for Type R's and never came on the EG, as for Silver, you can get them stock Silver over here.

not in the states though.

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- Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:18 pm #95767

Just an FYI the only Champ White, or Silver EG's you'll find wil have to have been painted, they didn't come factory in these colors

What color white is it that comes stock no the eg? Isn't there a stock color that is dark grey? Or something like that.



Thanks for all the help guys! Oh and sorry i posted in the wrong section. Not used to this type of forum yet.

- Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:18 am #95917 In your opinion, from the years 92-95 what year would you get and what model? And why?

- Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:31 am #95922 Id say a 92 VX lol

super light, amazing on gas, has a little quickness, but tops out easily so not that fast.

all 92's are wired for Vtec, but when swapping into a vx you have to convert from 5wire o2 to 4wire like most honda motors are

all in all vx's are just sweet lol

- Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:37 am #95925 Thanks! I have been trying to find the VX's for awhile now... Just not that many people are selling it here in SO CAL.

Lets say i have the stock motor (D15b7, d16z6, or the d15z1), And i want to make the most power i can with just bolt on's and no engine upgrades. Would it just be headers, intake, and catback? Would I need a tune for these or no?

What engine is the best for room to improve? IE all motor. In the future i am looking at going all motor. What engine is that for?

sorry for the noob question, coming from a different world (subaru's)

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- Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:50 am #95930 Best USDM D16 imo is the D16z6(comes in the Si). I loved mine until it died with rod knock(260k miles with daily 7k runs with some bottle fed matches takes it tole)
Responds to bolt ons quite well. With I/H/E you will beating LS Swaps easily and keeping up with Stock b16s.

With just I/h/e(intake headers exhaust) you dont need a tune. It leans out the engine a bit, letting it breath which is what gives you the better power. I eneded up tuning mine for even more power. However thats not necessary to do.

However if your looking at a swap in general the Best D Series is the OBD2 D15B. You have 3 stage vtec, so before 2500rpm you have vtec-e then the base cam is optimized for 3000-5000rpm range, then you have Vtec which is optimized for the 5000-7500 range. Has the best, and smoothest torque curve.

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- Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:56 am #95931 D16z6 will be the best motor for making power hands down. you can get some power out of the D15b7 but not really worth the money to build it up, it would cost less to just swap in a Z6 and finally the D15Z1 is purely a gas saver motor but its quicker then the D15C8 that's in the CX

some people have done build ups on the D15Z1 you can check out Robsters build

http://civic-eg.com/viewtopic.php?t=7515

and there are a few on honda tech
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1670633

- Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:12 am #95937 Thanks for the help guys! Robsters build is basically what i want to do. Doesn't matter which stock engine too!

Basically its just a different engine on the different trim levels right? And some have power everything while some don't? So the parts do not have to be specific trim level right?

I would someday love to cams, heads, etc. Is it worth it to do it on the stock engine? Or should i upgrade to the b16, or other? What are the numbers for the stock engine with cams and heads